I’ve been listening to The Nerdist podcast. (Anybody even vaguely into stand up comedy should listen to it, especially the Drew Carey episode.)
I started listening to the Andy Richter episode yesterday.
About 27 minutes into the podcast, they talk about stand up comedians who are always on.
I’ve been around a few people like this, years ago, at comic book conventions. They’re usually people who aren’t funny enough to play off their environment, so they try steering every conversation toward material they’ve done, even if it’s only been done alone before the bathroom mirror.
The example used in The Nerdist episode I’m listening to went something like this:
“…you can tell if a comic is trying to steer something in the direction of a bit that they want to try out. ‘Yeah, I know you guys — It’s great that you saw Avatar. Hey, have you had salads, lately!? What’s going on with that?’“
Sadly, that example isn’t too far off from the strange leaps some would-be comics make to turn the spotlight their way.
There’s a writer version of this person. I usually encounter them at parties…complete strangers who steer everything their way so they can talk about writing.
ME: “Hi, my name’s Christopher — nice meeting you.”
THEM: “Hi. Sorry if I seem out of it. I was just pondering if I should name the main elf in the story I’m writing Sylvin or Elwynde…”
or
ME: “How do you know so-and-so?”
THEM: [STRETCHING] “Oh, man — I’m so tired from staying up until the wee hours of dawn writing. Most people don’t realize how much writing takes out of you…”
Don’t be this writer.
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When it comes to writing talk, it’s better when friends speak for you. Listening often says more about you than talking. If you must talk about writing, keep it to a minimum, or only talk at length to people who are genuinely interested in what you have to say.
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Nobody likes the comic who’s always on; the writing version is even more annoying.
Jason says
Great post. I think that’s an important point, and one that is becoming even more so now that authors are bearing more of the brunt of advertising and everything. I can already feel that tug to talk about my writing (in case you haven’t noticed). Hopefully I’ll be able to exercise a little judgment about it. One thing I’ve thought about with twitter and all that is I’m more likely to click on someone link if I’m just having a regular conversation with them about whatever. If I’m told to click on a link, I practically never will. Exactly as your examples prove, there’s something to be said for just carrying on a normal conversation.
Christopher Gronlund says
I definitely talk about writing when it’s not forcing the issue, but I’ve seen quite a few writers who do everything they can to talk about what they’re doing. While attending a friend’s party, once, there was a guy making the rounds, and every time I wandered by, he was talking about writing.
It’s great having passion, but this guy was always on. And the funniest thing: there were a couple writers at the party and none of them mentioned to him that they wrote. (It was bad enough just listening to the guy; had anybody mentioned their writing, he would have talked about his writing even more.)
Like you, I’m more likely to click on links if the person isn’t always pushing their writing. Obviously, I post links to my blog of Twitter, but I try listening to people talk about writing and try talking about other things.
I think it’s very important to have a person’s permission or trust before going on and on about writing.
There are definitely people out there who find out that I write and want to hear about it…and trust me, then I can talk!
But there are other times that I can be around a bunch of people for an evening and none of them know I write because we’re talking about other things…or I’m just listening.